We have a website?  I forgot about it.  We do have some updates.  We our finally recording.  It's more of a demo with the ass load of new songs we worked out over the past year.  With everybody working, school and gambling we haven't been doing much as you may know.  We kinda thought we were done for but we got some motivation.  The recording line-up is the same assholes as before.  This will be a long process of recording!  As for shows, not for awhile but not out of the question.  Thanks, Colin, Kevin, Stephen and Brett

updated:  1/16/05